Episode 85: Why Zero Balancing Helps Clear Chronic Tension and Open Energy with Jared Urchek, L.Ac, CZB
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Jared is an Acupuncturist, Zero Balancing practitioner and Reiki Master who helps his clients to improve their wellness by approaching them as a whole person, working on their mind, body, and spirit.
In this episode, we explore the fundamental principles of Zero Balancing, its origins, and how it works to balance the body-mind complex.
Jared explains how Zero Balancing is a powerful tool for healing and personal transformation, helping people of all ages and walks of life to feel more centered, grounded, and connected. We'll also discuss the benefits of Zero Balancing, and how it can be useful for anyone looking to improve their overall wellbeing, reduce stress and tension, and increase their vitality.
So sit back, relax, and enjoy this conversation with Jared Urchek on how Zero Balancing can transform your health.
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Jared Urchek:
There's no sort of comment or best thing. It's really good for everything. Because again, being non diagnostic, we sort of just focus on treating a person at their core and really amplifying their well being. So, it doesn't matter if someone is coming in with knee pain with back pain, maybe they're depressed, maybe they're, you know, in here working with other practitioners for cancer or for, you know, some kind of autoimmune, you know, it doesn't it could be anything, because we're not treating disease. We're working with people and helping them kind of release stress. Yeah, we're augmenting wellness. Everything can get better. Yeah.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Welcome back to the Capitol Integrative Health podcast. I am Dr. Andrew Wong. And today we are excited to learn all about zero balancing with our guest Jared earthcheck. Jared is an acupuncturist zero balancing practitioner and Reiki master who helps his clients to improve their wellness by approaching them as a whole person working on their mind, body and spirit. In this episode, we explored the fundamental principles of zero balancing its origins, and how it works to balance the mind body complex. Jared explains how zero balancing is a powerful tool for healing and personal transformation, helping people of all ages and walks of life to feel more centered, grounded and connected. We'll also discuss the benefits of zero balancing and how it can be useful for anyone looking to improve their overall well being, reduce stress and tension and increase the red vitality. So sit back, relax and enjoy this conversation with Jared on how zero balancing can transform your health. So we're gonna discuss today we're so excited to have you on to discuss zero balancing or like we'd like to say Zb, and we're so grateful that you recently joined our team as well, it's company would help practicing acupuncture and Zb. So we've already seen a lot of patients get many benefits from acupuncture and zero balancing. I know I just recently had zeebee session with you which is amazing. Yes to have you. Short, short session but really powerful. Before we dive before we dive in, let's let's just kind of go over for listeners a bit about the work that you do and what drew you to become an acupuncturist and as your bouncing practitioner.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, sure. So yeah, thanks for having me on. It's been great being here as a practitioner at ch since December. So I'm very, very excited to be part of the crew here.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Awesome. So glad to have you.
Jared Urchek:
So yeah, I'm an acupuncturist, herbalist and zero balancer. And let's see, gosh, what drew me to this work. I think I've always been interested in this kind of stuff. You know, even when I was in middle school, I was researching meditation and hypnosis and you know, eventually started studying Reiki really early on. So I've always kind of, you know, been drawn to this sort of world and went to nursing school thinking that that was kind of an avenue for me to sort of play this interest in helping people and realize that was very much not for me, you know, the hospital system, that whole. That whole realm just wasn't quite where I knew I needed to be. I was drawn to Naropa University over in Colorado, Boulder, Colorado honor, yeah, where I could study horticulture and psychology at the same time. Plants in psychology, you know, that's perfectly aligned for my interests. And yeah, I was introduced to five element acupuncture through there, there was a class on the psychology of the five elements and just blew me away the poetry, the beauty, the simplicity, the thoroughness of the five elements system really just took me. So I went to acupuncture school after that and was introduced to zero balancing there. And yeah, then was just as struck by Zb as I was acupuncture. So yeah, really grateful to now be both an acupuncturist and a zero balancer.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Nice. Yeah. who founded Zb or who? Yeah,
Jared Urchek:
So the founder of zero balancing is Dr. Fritz Smith. He is still alive though retired, he's an osteopathic physician, and was you know, had a full osteopathic practice. And in California at the time, they were, you know, full physicians. So it was managing a wing of a hospital at a certain point and then went to Esalen quite a bit. And somebody had mentioned to him that there was somebody who was coming to talk about this acupuncture thing, you know, at Esalen and just had him come along. So he saw Jared Worsley, this, this acupuncture teacher, treat somebody with acupuncture, and it just kind of blew his mind a little bit in in terms of how this system could do what it did for this this patient. And so he started studying acupuncture and eventually developed 00 balancing. It's kind of a fusion of that osteopathic structural kind of bone based world with the kind of energetic anatomy of the Eastern East Asian system.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Got it? Yeah, that does seem interesting because usually for acupuncture, we think about put the needle and yeah, kind of drop it in, maybe twirl it a bit and then like step away or you're with the patient, but you're not doing the hand is on after the needle, you might put some more needles in. But when you were doing the ZbL is like, this does kind of feel like osteopathic Yeah, combination it very much is how many ship pretty much is. So it's a combination of sounds like it's a body treatment, it's a mind treatments energetic treatment? How does it work? If we can get into the, you know, the sciency part of it here? If there's a is there, is there some way that we can kind of theoretically or, or even biologically say, you know, hey, how does how does TV work?
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, sure. So, you know, really is this fusion of Eastern and Western concepts. And in the, in the East Asian world, we kind of have these three layers of energy, these three layers of anatomy, we have a skin level, we have kind of the muscle tissue Meridian organ level, when candidal. And then at the deepest level, we have the bones, okay, and we're constantly moving energy through all of those systems back and forth, you know, always kind of going back and forth between those three. So, you know, from the Eastern world, we really see that zero balancing as a way to focus on the bone level energy, this really deep, deep currents of not only our energy, but our memories are sort of like ancestral sort of place in this world as well, like all of that is held in the bones. Yeah, from that Eastern perspective. From the western perspective, you know, all of the bones are sort of connected by this cartilage by the fascial network. And then of course, all of the organs and flesh kind of is anchored on that web, that network of the bones and fascia, and bones, fascia and cartilage are all pieces of electric or piezo. Electric cover, you see that word. So when you put pressure or traction, or any kind of physical manipulation into the bones and joints, you're literally stimulating that kind of piezo electric charge, that has been shown to have really remarkable effects on tissue change. And, you know, theoretically, in our system, it speaks a lot to the way where we can touch in with the major joints and bones of the body and kind of connect everything back to itself in this really nice way.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah, I know that acupuncture also can affect that piezoelectric chart. Yeah, very much through the fashion, the fashion network surface. Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like this is like a way to augment that treatment, or even do it alone. It sounds like you do Zb along with clients. Yeah,
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, that's exactly it. Because, you know, with acupuncture, we're working very much in this kind of Oregon Meridian level, the emotions are in this level, and that kind of theory. But yeah, with zero balancing, we're able to kind of anchor all of that work in at a deeper level, because we're connecting with the bones, we're connecting with this really deep, stable part of ourself. So yeah, very much a standalone treatment and very much augments very well for acupuncture, massage or any other kind of, you know, body work system. It's really, really nice for that.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
And Jared, how do you decide for a patient that comes in you're doing an intake on them? How do you decide, hey, I'm gonna send, you know, I'm going to do some Zb along. I'm going to do some acupuncture alone, or or do a combination I know you'd like to do combo. Yeah, I'm a combo guy.
Jared Urchek:
I like that. Yeah. Yeah. So that's my preference, you know. And so if somebody comes in for treatment, and they don't say, one way or another, I'll always do that kind of combination will work with acupuncture, kind of get things moving and clear some blocks away, and then anchor everything with a really nice zero balancing at the end. Yeah. But sometimes people will come in and maybe they're just they're afraid of needles, right? Some people will just pass out if they get needle. Right. tattooed people are the funniest, you know, I've got one guy that comes in, he's got full tattoos everywhere, but he's like, no needles, man, I can't can't deal with it. So yeah, you know, sometimes we'll, we'll decide for that reason, or other times, you know, I might just kind of get an intuitive hit of like, oh, this person just needs to kind of drop into that level. You know, so we'll go straight there. But yeah, if I have my druthers, it's a combination.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yes. Yes. Same. I like variety. And it's that sort of synergistic. Really. Yeah. Let's kind of walk through the listener. And that Imagine, imagine that, you know, people, at least when I first heard it, zero balancing, I always kind of was like, Oh, well, maybe this is like someone meditating on a cloud. And like, there's some zero gravity floating up in space. I'm trying to balance you know, I don't know, maybe have a spacesuit on. If you could kind of walk through and maybe the listener could imagine this, as you're as you're speaking, you know, because we know that learning occurs mostly in the visual cortex. Yeah. What a typical zero bouncing session actually visually looks like what someone might expect to experience during and after a session.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, sure, sure. So let's see. zero balance and kind of the main way that we affect change with your balancing is by applying what we call fulcrums. And so a fulcrum is just any kind of pressure or mobilization of the joints, right.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
So your hands are on the wane a person or not just joints, but any kind of bone.
Jared Urchek:
Most specifically, it's a foundation in semi foundation joints of the body. So you know, all of the vertebral connections, you know, Shoulder girdles, sacroiliac joints tarsalis and carpels. But we cover the whole body.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
How is that different than now we're gonna go on to the OMT question how is how's EB differ from OMT? From osteopathic manipulation?
Jared Urchek:
Oh, um, well, you know, osteopathic manipulation is going to be much more sort of medically oriented, it's going to be more diagnostic, it's going to be coming from this perspective of kind of, you know, that sort of more medical level of care, okay, zero balancing itself is non diagnostic. And the practitioners of zero balancing who are certified are either acupuncturist, physical therapist, massage therapists, doctors, psychotherapist, there's a lot of different people, but essentially, it's a non diagnostic system. So we're not going in and saying like, Oh, yeah, this bone, this range of motion is only 30%. You know, we're not having this like really deep kind of mental level interaction with the skeleton, the bones, we're kind of applying this protocol of zero balancing across the whole body. And it's this kind of rhythmic sort of pretty well set protocol. But it's not diagnostic. We're not trying to sort of fix a particular issue. We're sort of trying to treat somebody and connect them at their core with what’s going on
Dr. Andrew Wong:
what's going on connected their core, help that person augment their own innate capacity for healing and build the terrain is that more
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, Very much, very much. And a lot of it too, is this kind of like almost self, you know, this education, because as we're sort of, well, here, I'll walk you through a typical session. Yeah, basically, a person is lying fully clothed on a treatment table. And we start at the heels and just kind of gently pull traction through the feet. And there's this way that this traction kind of lines up the whole body, right. And then we come up to the, the hip bones here, the front part of the pelvis and just press directly from there into the sacral body a little bit, a little bit at the lower ribs, the lumbar, the sacrum itself, we work with the hip joints, and kind of have this kind of mobilization of the hip itself. Through the knees, we also work with the torsos of the feet. Then we come up to the head, we do the same thing with the cervical and the skull, the whole shoulder girdle, the upper ribs, the thoracic spine, all the way down through the arms and you know, into the carpets of the hands. So there's this kind of full progression through the body. And really, it's basically from the feet all the way up. And then when we close we come from the head all the way down,
Dr. Andrew Wong:
kind of mirrors the parallel meditation. Yeah, very much very much.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, because the whole idea is we just kind of, it's almost this title way of, again, non diagnostically going through and just balancing and reconnecting everything. And, you know, it's this kind of back and forth thing that allows people to kind of progressively let go of tension, you know, we might be holding on to something and if we treat it once, it might still be resistant, but if we have this kind of back and forth and they're like, Oh yeah, I guess I can now that my sacrum has loosened up a little bit I guess I can't actually loosen up through the upper
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, I know when you were treating me I felt like areas were getting released that were tight. I know that a lot of times we store like you said stress in our bodies as either tightness or some sort of dysfunction or chronic habit habits of posture and you know, different things. Hips are a tight area for me. So yeah, that's definitely your hips and shoulders are super common for people to have to just hold a lot of tension and because it's yeah, that functionally they're really good places that hold a lot of tension you know, they can they compare that Yeah.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
What are the most common conditions that you find zero balancing helpful for Can anyone benefit can image just kind of go into your Zb clinic and get kind of cleaned up straightened up? Yeah, absolutely.
Jared Urchek:
Absolutely. So the really the answer is there's no there's no sort of comment or best thing it's really good for everything. Because again, being non diagnostic, we sort of just focus on treating a person at their core and really amplifying their well being so it doesn't matter if someone is coming in with knee pain with back pain. Maybe they're depressed maybe they're you know, in here working with other practitioners for cancer or for you know, some kind of autoimmune you know, it doesn't it could be anything because we're not treating disease we're working with people and helping them kind of release stress that wellness Yeah, we're augmenting wellness Yeah, everything can get better
Dr. Andrew Wong:
I love I love the focus on the bones because we always look at you know, other organ systems here and especially in like functional medicine, yeah, integrative health and we definitely look at the fascia I think the bones is an area that is kind of a you know, another area of exploration that that you know needs to be done.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, I very much agree especially because you know, all of the organs are tapped into the skeleton all of the fascia all of the most like everything is just anchored on the skeleton and
Dr. Andrew Wong:
like if we improve the the fascia and the organs within the bones are not right set correctly or something. Yeah. Um, and where do you see kind of Osteopathic manipulation or chiropractic fitting in like if you see a patient or client, like when when would you say okay, I need you to go to a chiropractor or osteopathic done yeah,
Jared Urchek:
yeah, that's a great question. Um, so a lot of times I'll refer out if people are needing some kind of, you know, imaging, some kind of diagnostic X ray thing that I can provide. That'll be typically you know, someone will come in with pain. In and you know, they don't really respond or maybe you know with treatment it gets worse. It's like yeah, okay, you should go you know red flag symptoms or other red flags Exactly. Unilateral numbness or tingling they have obvious things like bowel dysfunction, exactly.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah, such weight loss, etc, etc, all the typical red flagsand as an acupuncturist as a, as a health practitioner you're trained to, to identify these type of things as well as work in integrative practice. Yeah,
Jared Urchek:
very much. And funny enough if Fritz is actually one of the first people in the medical world to have taken that Red List of red flags and kind of brought it into the integrative that's world. It's cool. Yeah, that's really neat. So yeah, we're very crisp and clear about what is our domain and you know, as kind of non MDS or whatever chiropractors, osteopaths what's not our realm to deal with?
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Well, one thing we say here, a lot of CIH is it takes a village. Yeah. So we're so glad you're member the team and really helping helping a lot a lot of people. So you said there was a lot of anyone could benefit, but are they're like, kind of top three, top five, like bread and butter. Okay, these are people who would really, really help, you know, get help.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah. So any kind of major joint pain, like low back pain or knee pain, shoulder pain, really, really good for that? Because we're, you know, we're structural in the sense that we can connect with the bones with the tissues and really help at that structural level.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
It's very gentle. It's not like high velocity. And yeah, chiropractors have that. And that could be good for something. Oh, yeah. So yeah, definitely refer to chiropractors. But certainly, for this kind of treatment, it is more gentle. And I think this could be helpful for us. Yeah, people. So
Jared Urchek:
yeah, it's really good for physical level ailments like that. It's also really good for kind of, you know, for certain types of trauma, certain types of kind of mental emotional things that people are kind of closed off or kind of tightened off, where people can't kind of let go of tension. Can't let themselves kind of relax more deeply. It's really, really good for helping people kind of drop in a little
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah, so a couple questions there. Can someone experience a detox reaction or detox crisis from I guess you can say that about an angry man?
Jared Urchek:
Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Generally, is your bouncing is really safe and gentle, and we're very oriented towards not over treating people, you know, we're never trying to force something to move, we're never trying to force something to relax, we just connect with things and and hold space for them to move. So sometimes that does mean that people will have kind of a big reaction afterwards, you know, sometimes people will have memories come up, you know, they've like, I don't know what my shoulder hurts about, then all of a sudden, they realize, whoa, they had this old thing that happened to them years and years ago, and that memory comes up. And, you know, there can be this kind of detox process from that the trauma was stored there. Yeah, kind of loosening that up. Exactly. Yeah. Or, you know, sometimes people will have, you know, a lot of soreness afterwards. But then once that soreness kind of clears out, then they feel quite a bit better after so nice. But yeah, people can respond any any sort of way, but tends to be kind of gentle and easy.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
And then the other thing I wanted to ask about was in terms of like time course or duration, how long is this session? How many sessions you'd recommend for for a person that probably does vary depending on the client?
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, varies quite a bit. You know, if somebody will regard this when people come in, I recommend coming in for two or three treatments. Yeah, that gives people the sense, you know, of kind of how to receive the session, you know, a lot of times, especially if we have a lot of tension, people need to learn how to relax. And so it takes a session or two sometimes for that to happen. The sessions themselves are, you know, 35 to 55 minutes, something like that. And we do some talking before and after to kind of integrate and kind of figure out what's what's needed, where do we want to go. But yeah, two or three sessions is a really good way for people to get a sense of whether this is good for them, whether this fits, whether it's helping treat the thing that they're really interested in shifting.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah, so I'm gonna do a little soapbox moment here, because it's our podcasts. And I think that the thing about you know, the mind body is that, you know, we know that a couple of centuries ago, there was a guy named discard and there's this idea of the Mind Body split. And a lot of times when people come to like a traditional medical practice or you know what they're used to, it's kind of like well, you have you know, body treatment over here and you have mine treatment over here, like let's analyze their labs, let's get our body treatment but there's not like an integration Yeah. One of the one of the pieces that I find really helpful personally and with with our patients here is that you know, when people get some sort of bodywork something where they is trying to reconnect back to the body, so they can reintegrate that body mind spirit, their health improves. Yeah, you know, and one of the key things about acupuncture and as you're balancing it sounds like it's it's really almost like reteaching that person to be mindful and aware. Oh, yeah. Other other other body of the bones. Yeah, everything.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, that's really a perfect way to say it because the way trauma and held Tension work best is to be able to store them away from consciousness, well, we kind of moved through the world, right? So we can be functional, we can get up and go to work, we can take care of the kid, you know, whatever it is. And we sort of put them in places and sort it out a little extra storage closet kind of place.
And so you know, there can be this way of, we touch in with a part of the body where somebody is holding tension, and it suddenly connects to them, like, oh, my gosh, like, I've been sad for years, because my mom passed away or because of this, and they've just been holding on to it. And it's not until they get this sort of space to connect with that and really feel where that emotion is, and how that connects to the rest of the body. And then things can really open up. But yeah, zero balancing is a remarkable system for its ability to kind of link up Mind and Body and Spirit all together.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
And I think to optimize someone's wellness and ability to, you know, heal and ability to kind of step into their full power. Not that we're going to say this is going to treat disease, because we can't say that, but we can say that, I would say that, you know, if if it can lead to reducing stress or releasing some stored, you know, tension or stress, we know that stress is a major cause a major driver of disease.
Jared Urchek:
Absolutely. You know, I was thinking, as you said that about, I've been seeing recently, a lot of patients who are like really large people, you know, very tall, very broad, just kind of big people in general. And I've been noticing a lot how typically people that show up really big in society will try to make themselves smaller. Because it's just easier. You know, you don't intimidate people as much or you know, there's this way where you can sort of like not take up too much space. And there's this way, like that is a thing that causes stress, you know, and if that heightens cortisol, if that causes literal stress to the bones, like all of those things have profound downstream effects. When you think about arthritis from decades of held tension, or you know, the stress hormones, cortisol or whatever, just kind of coursing through a person's body, like as they tried to hide,
Dr. Andrew Wong:
that's a rabbit hole about how society tends to pigeonhole people into various, you know, what is an acceptable body size? Yeah,
Jared Urchek:
exactly. Yeah. And so, that's a beautiful thing about Zb is we're able to go in and just treat each person as a very individual person and find out where they're holding stress and ultimately, really invite them to inhabit their body fully. Yeah, instead of kind of hiding places or sort of shirking away from parts of themselves. You know, it's like, oh, I can actually stand up really tall and be myself, you know?
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah. And then also in an era of zoom, right, we're in the era of zoom now. Yeah. You know, from zoom does Evie. You know, there's another Z, and there's another Z in town now. Because, you know, touch is healing, we know that touch stimulates oxytocin. We know that's super helpful. A hormone that helps to regenerate the body is involved with like, happiness and all this stuff. Right? If you hug someone, or touch someone, and a lot of times we've we've lost that in in this society. Yeah.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, it was actually we just had a training about what is it? The younger you? Yes. System? Yes. And they were talking to a camera. Yeah. How, you know, a lack of social connection. And the lack of really quality touch is is actually profoundly damaging to people's chromosomes. It's damaging to their genetic when you that ancestral, I think that kind of creates a cell danger response. Yeah. Interesting. are not touched enough.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah. Make sense? Yeah. And so zero balancing, you know, because it is a it is a therapeutic clinical practice, it's very safe, it's very contained. But at the same time, you know, we don't typically get, you know, all the places we touch into zero balancing session, we don't typically get touched, even if we have a really nice hug. Someone's not sort of like holding L four and l five, and really anchoring into that, you know, so we're able to kind of touch people in this really safe contained way, but in a way that's very comprehensive. Yeah. And, yeah, it's remarkable how much people need that, especially in the in the age of zoom when they launched over and right by ourselves.
So you said there's different practitioners that that typically are Zb practitioners. So who can learn? Zb can? Can anyone learn you have to be a practitioner of some sort? Yeah, that's
Jared Urchek:
a great question. Anyone can learn zero balancing. And there's certain things about the zero balancing theory that I think everybody should learn. And really, I frankly, I think everyone needs to learn.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
So put in the schools say again, put it in the school. Yeah,
Jared Urchek:
Ideally, right? I mean, really, how to touch people thoughtfully how to be good about boundaries, how to be crisp and clear boundaries. But yeah, so anyone can learn. To be able to practice you need to have some kind of umbrella licensure that allows you to have touch, to be able to play touch, whether it's acupuncture, physical therapy, MD, you know, any of the other sort of, you know, licenses that allow for touch therapy. Exactly. Massage Therapy. Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of people in CBT glasses. I joined the faculty of zero balancing last year and we see a lot of people come through who are just, you know, they just want to either they've always been good with their hands and they want to learn how to touch and give Massage to their their family better, or they're just kind of curious about natural healing and something about zero balancing struck them. Yeah, there's absolutely people like that who come to
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah. To Zb. themselves their loved ones. Yeah, thing. Yeah, absolutely great. And then for listeners who are interested in trying zero balancing for themselves, what advice would you offer for finding a qualified practitioner? You know, how do you find someone that's certified in this? How do you get the most out of out of your sessions? As a as a patient?
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, so zero balancing is an organization that's, you know, each country has its own zero balancing organization that has set one up that is, so there's one here in the United States, there's one in New Zealand, there's one in Switzerland, you know, there's Zb organizations across the world. But if you go to zero balancing.com, you can find a practitioner just sort of anywhere by zip code by city. So that's a great way to go and look for a practitioner.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
So it's all around the world. It's all around the world for sure. That's, that's awesome. Yeah, it really is. This kind of tied up with, let's say, listeners out there, kind of like I want to learn a little as you're balancing right now, is there something that they can do? Kind of off the top that you could kind of share with them?
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, absolutely. So we use a particular quality of touch and zero bouncing when we do these fulcrums that we call interface. An interface is really about being clear on the boundary between things, right. And so you know, if I am touching my own fingertips, I can get really clear about oh, yeah, my right hand is my right hand, my left is my left. And I kind of keep my mind on differentiating those the whole time. Right? What if I'm touching this table, you know, if you have your hand out here, if you put your hand on the table, I can sort of be really clear about I'm me. And even though I'm touching you, I'm really clear about where your structure is where your energy is at. That's different than kind of blending, you know, so if you are like holding hands with your partner, or you know, holding a child or something like that, there's this kind of blending thing that is lovely, but it's just different. And so for people at home, you know, you can find your collarbones. And just kind of lightly touch so you're just barely on the skin. And you know, the bone is right there, but you're not really touching the bone, you're touching the skin, right? And then get clear about that sort of interface quality and put a little more pressure in until you feel like you're connecting with the collarbone itself.
Yeah, so you have a little bit of a breath, I have a little bit of a breath. Suddenly, I can feel like my pulse a little bit deeper in my body. I can feel this kind of refered, energetic connection from my collarbones down into my ribs a little bit and into my back of my neck. Yeah, we have bigger breasts, because there's this kind of integrating kind of working breath. It's yeah, we're helping to kind of like, oh, yeah, we're reconnecting, you know, and let's think breathwork is essential for actually doing this. Right. Yeah. And the funny thing is, we look for working signs during a session where somebody we can see that they're actually they're processing this work that something is happening. Yeah. So sometimes the eyes will flutter in this kind of REM way, or, you know, their head might kind of blow off to the side, or they have this really big breath. And yeah, the breath is an essential way that all of this work is kind of integrated. Yeah,
Dr. Andrew Wong:
I felt like if I didn't do that, I wouldn't really have been able to concentrate. Yeah, really fully get into absolutely,
Jared Urchek:
yeah, the breath helps to kind of carry all that energy that we connected with here helps to carry it back into the system. And
Dr. Andrew Wong:
so it's not just stuck in one ear. Yeah, that's the beauty of that body is connected and working on one section body than bigger looking, you know, down, up, down. It's really, the whole body's very much.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, so yeah, at home, you know, if you're feeling a little tender, a little sore somewhere, you can just apply that kind of interface touch, whether it's here at the collarbone, you know, down here at the, the elbow itself, you know, if you want to just do that with your hand or your shins is another another nice way to do that. You can sort of apply that quality of touch to any part of your body.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
I noticed when I was doing this, and it kind of reminded me that chi gong ball, yeah, no, but my left side is tighter. And I could I could almost feel it, you start to feel it in the shoulder, even when you do that light touch. Yeah, it's really interesting how that teaches you so much about your body very
Jared Urchek:
much. And that's the whole quality of the interface touch because if you there at interface, you have to pay attention of what is what? Yeah, and be clear about oh, like I'm here, and they're there, you know, and then you start to realize, oh, yeah, my shoulder is like, oh, yeah, I'm hunched over Yeah, maybe I can actually straighten my spine up a little bit. And that feels better. Yeah, yeah. So the whole thing is really just an education not only for the person receiving but especially for me when I'm giving a session, it's always education
Dr. Andrew Wong:
and the straightening of the feet, I remember you doing that and the hips, what I also noticed was that the energy flow kind of got unblocked, you know, how you have the the blood vessels, the arteries, the you know, the veins, the lymph system, the nervous system, like everything is everything is kind of flowing, but if that if those highways are blocked, then then there can be potentially, you know, discomfort, even disease or different things? Yeah,
Jared Urchek:
absolutely. Yeah, we say, we work a lot with structure and energy and zero balancing, and someone can have a really good structure. They're all their skeleton, the like, everything is perfectly fine, but they have pain, because the energy isn't moving well, yeah. Or they can have a structure and maybe they have really severe scoliosis, or, you know, whatever it might be, maybe their structure is kind of not balanced, but the energy moves through it fine. So they're good. They don't have any pain, you know? So it's always about finding where the structure and the energy are kind of moving together and how to move most efficiently with both
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah, and there's, there's a structure to the fashion to the to the capillaries and things that we wouldn't necessarily be able to see on an x ray. Yeah, you know, that's where that's where I think there's that macro structure and microstructure. Absolutely,
Jared Urchek:
I you see that like chiropractic stuff, too, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, if you're blocked up in this vertebrae, if there's inflammation, if there's some kind of subluxation, and you kind of straighten that up, all of that nerve flow, all of the blood, all of the energy downstream is sort of opened. And it's
Dr. Andrew Wong:
hard to say this as a functional medicine practitioner, but I will say this, that labs and imaging don't tell us everything. Yeah. Yep. See everything? That's real. Yeah. You know, a lot of the things are happening body are microscopic, they're dynamic, they're interfacing with different, you know, organ systems, and they're, they're constantly changing. And that's where I think a talented practitioner like yourself that can assess that energy can be really, really helpful. Yeah,
Jared Urchek:
sure. Because, you know, you might see high cortisol levels on a lab, right, but where is that coming from? You know, if you're touching a person's collarbones and you know, realize that, oh, they broke their collarbone, when they were five, they suddenly have this memory come up, and they have this big release of energy. Yeah, that you're touching stress.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Jared, for talking to us about about Zb. I'm gonna say that for the rest of the year from zoom to zero and go from there any resources to learn more? I think he's you've mentioned some some national international sites, maybe where people could learn more about about Zb find practitioner, etc.
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, absolutely. Yes, zero balancing.com. You can go on and find a practitioner, you can also go on and find courses. So people are often caught offering courses all across the world, here in the States quite a bit. And you offer Yeah, I offer as well. I'll have some courses coming up in silver spring and College Park later this year. How do you find out about those? Yeah, zero bouncing.com. Okay, and it'll be on there. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you can search classes that are being taught in particular areas, or just get an overview of everything. Or you can stay tuned to see ah, I'm sure I'll be you know, putting some information about class that's
Dr. Andrew Wong:
gonna be that. Jared, what is one thing you wish everyone knew about zero balancing just kind of wrapping that up today?
Jared Urchek:
Oh, did it feels amazing. You know, each session is unique and different. But zero balancing always just has this kind of grounding way of kind of helping us let go of tension we don't need
Dr. Andrew Wong:
so here you typically do tie it in with acupuncture and with kind of New Atheists. But then sometimes if people don't like you said earlier, if someone doesn't have really a proclivity towards, towards, you know, having needles, then you could do the kind of touch but not with the needle. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Well, Jared, we have a fun closing question for you. Thank you so much for coming on today. Part of our mission at CH is to make integrative health care more accessible, and focusing on the small steps that we can all take to improve our health. So we'd love to hear from you personally. What is one thing under $20 That you feel has transformed your health?
Jared Urchek:
Yeah, great question. The answer that I've come up with is a hurry hurry, do you know Hurry hurry, you know, so you know that I'm also a plant and gardening wild food nerd. So hooray, hooray. It's a Japanese style kind of digging knife. Okay, so it's almost like a travel but it has a knife on one side it has a saw blade on the other and it's very, very sturdy. So you know, you can find one of these for under 20 bucks but it's it's absolutely transformational in terms of going out in the woods and being able to harvest things okay, you know, getting branches digging up roots and stuff like that at Home Depot and things are you'll find them at Home Depot for sure to gardening store or online gardening stories as well.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Cory Hori, Hori. Hori,
Jared Urchek:
H O R i L H O ri. All right. Yeah. And if you come on to plant walk, I'll have mine and we'll, we'll be digging up.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
Yeah. Thanks so much, Jared. Today,
Jared Urchek:
thanks so much for having me.
Dr. Andrew Wong:
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